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Old 12-31-2010
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Default Wtf... more problems.. leaking chain case...

I just cant seem to win with this damn thing so far.. My chain case leaks. I cannot find where its leaking from. Ive sealed the rubber piece with a gasket maker, that did not help. I tipped it on the side, looked by the driveshaft and i do not see any kind of oil on the shaft. Unless it has already been cleaned from ridng it i dont know but i doubt that? This seems like a simple problem to find, but i really dont know what to think cuz i dono where its leaking from. But it had very little fluid in it.
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If you can't find where it's coming from then its probably the chaincase bearing/seal. If it were leaking in the belly pan then you'd see it, is the belly pan full of oil?
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I looked inside the tunnel by the driveshaft and it looks clean by there, i thought it was the seal too but now i dont think so. Uh, its not really full of oil that i could see but i didnt look real close at that before i pulled the cover. Thats why this is stumping me, i cant see anywhere that the damn thing is leaking. Maybe my chain case is broken somewhere Hmm.. Im gona put it on the side and put oil in it and see if it leaks through the seal or if i can see it leak from anywhere i guess.
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If its the chaincase seal then it leaks as your riding it when the oil is actually getting flung around the chaincase. Makes it hard to track down. Pretty much if its not leaking into the belly pan, then it's leaking on the outside which is the seal.
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3 options,the drive shaft seal,the jack shaft seal or the case seal. or maybe a loose drain plug.
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Well if i put the sled on its side it should leak through by sitting right on the seal, hopefully? If its the seal thats bad. We will see i guess.

I looked at the drain plug, all i know is that its stripped so i dont think it comes out. Not the threads but the allen head to take it out im pretty sure its wrecked.
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if it were me, i would simply tip the sled on the side. clean the rubber piece in gas, put a bead of silicone on the inside of the rubber seal then put it on the case, at the top where the ends meet put a dab there as well. then put a small bead on the inside of the cover.
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if it were me, i would simply tip the sled on the side. clean the rubber piece in gas, put a bead of silicone on the inside of the rubber seal then put it on the case, at the top where the ends meet put a dab there as well. then put a small bead on the inside of the cover.
That is pretty much what i did. I put some silicon/gasket maker on the rubber seal... And what do you know, it still had near nothing in it when i pulled the cover back off.
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rubber washers on the bolts inside?
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Just pull it all off and replace the bearings and seals, it's not all that much work and you'll be farther ahead that way.
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rubber washers on the bolts inside?
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Just pull it all off and replace the bearings and seals, it's not all that much work and you'll be farther ahead that way.
And then what happens after i do all that and the piece of shit still doesnt hold fluid? Haha..

I took the chain and gears off, put it on its side and put some carb cleaner on the bearings/seals whatever and i didnt see anything leak through. I figure some thin fluid like that would leak through if the seal was bad?

Also, does the oil hold in on the inside of the bearing, or does the fluid go behind the bearing too? Cuz i looked at a parts diagram and it seems like the seal goes behind the bearing.
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Both bearings are sealed and then their are the seals behind them.

There are only so many places for oil to leak out.
1) Jackshaft
2) Driveshaft
3) Drain plug
4) Cover seal
5) Crack in your chaincase

I use RVT blue on my chaincase covers to make sure they don't leak. Have you checked your drain plug? Is the rubber washer on the drain plug still good? I'd add some RVT blue to that as well. So if you've really eliminated options 3 and 4 you need to remove the chaincase. If you don't find a crack then you're probably leaking out the bearings some how. Replace the bearings and seals(good thing to do anyways). If this still does not fix your problem then options 3 and 4 are what you need to look in to. Maybe you are applying too much sealant in one area and not enough in another
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there is an oring that goes on the axle between the bearing and the ring the seal rides on.
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look again real careful like at that ALLEN HEAD SET SCREW....sometimes after bungering that allen it will develope a minute crack on one of the 5 faces of the allen....very hard to detect but sometimes you can put wrench back in and try to tighten a little putting force on it and you can see the tiny crack open...i would swap that out
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Ill look at it. How can i get that drain plug out if the allen head is all stripped to shit?
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If you can't drill it out and tap it, just plug that drain from the inside so you can eliminate it as the problem.
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Well its not the threads that are stripped (that i know of) but the allen head to remove the plug from the case is stripped. I dont have an easy out or whatever its called that has reverse threads for removing shit like that either.
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It is called an easy out, and if you're not leaking from the drain plug don't worry about it. Easiest way to drain the fluid is to just take the cover off any way.
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Ill look at it. How can i get that drain plug out if the allen head is all stripped to shit?
with a slightly bigger metric allen wrench or a 1/8 thick x like 5/16 wide blade of steel or whatever fits flat with a crecent wrench to turn or weld a rod to the top of screw or a star wrench with socket that wedges in it 1/2 drive preferably or....
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