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I asked this last season on SF but all the stupid kids wanted to put in their 3 cents and I got tired of reading the bullshit, so I quit going to that thread... then I pretty much quit going there all together.

Anyway, I want to stretch the track this season and I'm not sure how far I should go. My last sled I stretched to 136" and I loved the difference it made.

I'm currently looking at two different tracks. Both are used, but in great shape. Both are 1.25" lugs. They are the same price. 136" or 144"

The rail and tunnel extensions will vary in price a little, but not really that much to sway me one way or the other. If I go with the 144" then I'll use the tipped up style extensions like the Switchbacks used. That would allow for acting like a 136" on the trails and hardpack, but give the extra length for deeper trenching when I drop it in the fluff. I will more than likely add an additional cooler to the tunnel extension because of the issues I've read about before. I'll also change the gearing and clutching to compensate for the extra track length. Other than that, the sled will pretty much remain stock. I don't plan on engine mods. It runs fine the way it is.

So, what is your opinion and why? Stock 2003 Edge XC 600 SP. Most riding done in northern to north eastern Iowa. Some northern MN and planning on a UP trip here and there. I don't care about how high my top speed is. I'm not drag racing it and I don't do massive jumps and flips.
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Then it seems that the 144 with the tip up rails would be the best bet for you.
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I've never ridden 144" but can't be much different than 136". If the prices are similar go ahead and shoot for 144". I wanted to stretch to 144" but it's only 4" difference on the ground and it'd cost more than it's worth. You've ridden with 136" and already know the awesome difference so I'm sure you already know that the 4" will only be most noticable in the deep stuff.
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I say go for the 144. I expected a huge turning radius difference, but there isn't really one. I can't see any benefit to going anything less than 144. Even if you were to just trail ride, the improved ride is worth it IMO.
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How is it to dig out Bryan?
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How is it to dig out Bryan?
That is exactly what I meant by the trenching comment. It's just that much more track digging that much deeper into the snow.

I am leaning towards the 144"... guess I just need someone to push me over the edge
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Do it! The way to look at it is it's only 4" more actual ground contact than a 136". I'm sure after you longtracked to 136" you wondered why you didn't go 144", or at least wondered if you should have. I know I did lol. With the tipped up rails it'll act the same as a 136".
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That is exactly what I meant by the trenching comment. It's just that much more track digging that much deeper into the snow.
I believe the trenching would be partly contributed to the track you were spinning. I know my 1.25" ripsaw will dig to the moon if I let it. You said you were gonna run a 1.25 lug, if you do don't get a ripsaw and expect it to be superior in powder.
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this is funny......he gets less snow in Iowa than we get here in MN. if you do go 144 get the tracks usa extensions, they are 100 times better than slp. the tracksusa will hold up better and you can extend the hifax as well. now I bought the 136 kit from tracksusa with the 1.5 x136 Intense track under hogs and Rubis recommendation, they swear by it. I dont do much off-trail riding but hope to go to MI with these fuckers in Feb. and hope to hold my own......we will see!!
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Why stop at 144, go 174, go big or go home.

Either way you'll be happy, but the extra 4 inches of track on the ground with the 144 makes a huge difference in floatation. The extra inches in length adds 60 square inches of track on the ground over the 136.
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Rock, the only rail extension I will use would be Tracks USA. Had a set on my Xtra-10 on the last sled. Loved the fit and finish. They just looked stronger than the SLP extensions. The fact that the hyfax are extended was a key selling point. The SLPs just look cheap. I could make those myself with crap I have laying around my shed.

Seems I have some people pushing the 144 and others pushing the 136 (couple different sites). Good reasoning on both sides... might come down to the total cost of the project if I can't make up my mind soon.
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my 136" kit was $700 shipped to my door! but since my tunnel is black I am going to have grease monkey powder coat the extension black so add another $60.00 to it.
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The extra inches in length adds 60 square inches of track on the ground over the 136.
Never thought of it this way. Leave it to the ambulance chaser lol.
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surprised he didnt break it down to how much money per square inch for the 136 compared to the 144!!!
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I didn't have costs at the time I broke it down rock. The ambulance chaser used to be a little bit of a math dork when I was a kid. I am a much better drinker and bs'er though...
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lmfao I hope you can ride too. We'll test what kinda drinker you are if you drag hogs gotta watch the superbowl ass to the UP in Feb.
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Just to be a smartass I'll throw a couple more numbers out there for you guys. The 136" will have about 112.5 more area on the snow than the 121 while the 144" will have about a 172.5 square inch larger foot print than the 121.

Anything else the genius civil servant can help you with today?
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That is exactly what I meant by the trenching comment. It's just that much more track digging that much deeper into the snow.

I am leaning towards the 144"... guess I just need someone to push me over the edge

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I'm actually getting pushed more towards the 136 track lately. Think I might have found a great deal on a track, but still waiting for confirmation of the deal. Have to play hide and watch for a little while.
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either way your still gonna have to wrap your sled in monster stickers if ya wanna be cool and fit in with the rest of the douches on the Mich ride!! LMAO
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Ya know Jeff, the first gathering of all of us at the campground I had a Monster sticker in the back window of my truck just for you guys and no one said a word to me about it. I was somewhat disappointed at first, but I got over it.
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