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View Poll Results: Ride Location Out West
Colorado-Grand Lake Area 2 18.18%
Colorado-Other 5 45.45%
Idaho-Island Park 2 18.18%
Idaho/Montana-West Yellowstone 5 45.45%
Wyoming-Snowies 5 45.45%
Wyoming-Bighorns 2 18.18%
Wyoming-Jackson Area 1 9.09%
Wyoming-Wyoming Range 1 9.09%
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How many would be up for a group ride out west somewhere? Maybe if we start getting this orpanized now, we'll be able to get more participation.

Poll above should be able to give us a relative idea of location. I would suggest wherever it is, the ride be in mid-January for best POW.
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I didn't vote as I've never ridden out west, I can only imagine that the worst conditions out there are still better than the best conditions here in mn!!

at haydays last year there was a place called antlers lodge in Dubois Wy that offering a package deal, room, 2 meals a day, rental sled and UNLIMITED ALCOHOL for 250.00 a day!!

I missed out because of the lack of $$$$, that won't be the case this year!!
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I didn't vote as I've never ridden out west, I can only imagine that the worst conditions out there are still better than the best conditions here in mn!!

at haydays last year there was a place called antlers lodge in Dubois Wy that offering a package deal, room, 2 meals a day, rental sled and UNLIMITED ALCOHOL for 250.00 a day!!

I missed out because of the lack of $$$$, that won't be the case this year!!
That would be in area north of Jackson, riding the Continental Divide System. Never riden there but it should be good to go by mid-January.

That's a great price for an all-inclusive, makes me wonder a little about types of sleds and service.
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Is $250 a day cheap? After you buy gas and oil for the sled, that is $300 a day!!! I did the whole Mass City trip for less than $400. My vote would be to find an out-of-the-way place that offers an excellent value. When you go to one of the big name destinations, you are fighting crowds, and untracked snow is difficult to find. As much as the natives would like you to believe it, it does not snow every day in the mountains. Riding in a bowl that is crisscrossed with 2 1/2 foot deep trenches when the snow has set up for 4 or 5 days, is no picnic. Best bet for good riding conditions is to find an area that gets light tourist traffic and hit it during midweek. Then the locals are at work, and there aren't enough tourists to track out the snow.

I don't know what I'm going to vote for, but I know this. Northwestern Wyoming has the most snowfall in the Rockies. Little Cottonwood Canyon, Utah can have as much, but I don't know if there is snowmobiling there. The West Yellowstone/Island Park area offers good snow and riding at relatively low elevations. That is important for a short duration trip, because if you're riding at over 10,000 feet, you're going to be wiped out for the first day or two from the altitude.

I think a good idea would be to wait until early November when the big Snowmobile Shows are going around the country. Then you can go to the shows and all the riding areas are represented. They offer a lot of good deals at the shows too. It's a good idea to start discussing things now though. Then we can fight about it for 9 months and still have nothing agreed upon by next winter. I'm looking forward to the arguments. Let the games begin!!
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I didn't vote either. Partly because I've never been and really wouldn't know one area versus enother, partly because rmker talks like they have alot of untracked snow with very few tourists ripping everything up. He has good knowledge of the area and riding with a local is always a plus. I've seen pics and videos that show your stomping grounds to prove pretty killer riding too vertical.
I'll follow the majority of what everyone wants when the time comes. I have never experienced the altitude and not sure how my body will react. I do plan to make it a week long trip when I come out to ride though, and I'll be pulling my own sled out there.
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LMAO ..... aren't we all. I'll be glad to either get home and squeeze in a ride or get a sled over here. This season it's very doable, next may not be this good.
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I'm Undecided, if i can afford it i'd like to take a trip out to see indy and Rmker out in the CO mountains.
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Is $250 a day cheap? After you buy gas and oil for the sled, that is $300 a day!!! I did the whole Mass City trip for less than $400.

$250 + fuel inclusive of room, 2 meals, sled rental, and booze isn't bad at all for peak of season. You were out here at end of season and rode your own ride. Right ?

My vote would be to find an out-of-the-way place that offers an excellent value. When you go to one of the big name destinations, you are fighting crowds, and untracked snow is difficult to find.

Not always the case, but it can hold true during peak season.

As much as the natives would like you to believe it, it does not snow every day in the mountains. Riding in a bowl that is crisscrossed with 2 1/2 foot deep trenches when the snow has set up for 4 or 5 days, is no picnic. Best bet for good riding conditions is to find an area that gets light tourist traffic and hit it during midweek. Then the locals are at work, and there aren't enough tourists to track out the snow.

Won't disagree with any of this except the snow setup part. That's why I said to plan it for middle of January, POW will be everywhere, even lower elevations.

I don't know what I'm going to vote for, but I know this. Northwestern Wyoming has the most snowfall in the Rockies. Little Cottonwood Canyon, Utah can have as much, but I don't know if there is snowmobiling there.

Not sure on Little Cottonwood, but Utah does have some great areas available for sledding. The Wasach Range & Uintas are both good riding.

The West Yellowstone/Island Park area offers good snow and riding at relatively low elevations. That is important for a short duration trip, because if you're riding at over 10,000 feet, you're going to be wiped out for the first day or two from the altitude.

Altitude is going to be a factor for sure, but a lot of fun areas are going to get you up over the 8500' mark.

I think a good idea would be to wait until early November when the big Snowmobile Shows are going around the country. Then you can go to the shows and all the riding areas are represented. They offer a lot of good deals at the shows too. It's a good idea to start discussing things now though. Then we can fight about it for 9 months and still have nothing agreed upon by next winter. I'm looking forward to the arguments. Let the games begin!!


I just wanted to get it opened up and going, next season out here may come early. Decent riding can be found by early December in a good year. That's not that far off if funds have got to be built up to make it. And no it doesn't snow every day, just a lot more often than the flatlands and a lot more quantity.
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I didn't vote either. Partly because I've never been and really wouldn't know one area versus enother, partly because rmker talks like they have alot of untracked snow with very few tourists ripping everything up. He has good knowledge of the area and riding with a local is always a plus. I've seen pics and videos that show your stomping grounds to prove pretty killer riding too vertical.
I'll follow the majority of what everyone wants when the time comes. I have never experienced the altitude and not sure how my body will react. I do plan to make it a week long trip when I come out to ride though, and I'll be pulling my own sled out there.
Ideally it would be an area 1 of us had been to and has somewhat of a knowledge of what's where. Always makes finding hidden spots easier.

Cuzz rode the Snowies (Rentals Available)
Rubi rode the area in Wt Yellowstone (Rentals Available)
RMKer knows Colorado areas (Rentals Available)
I know the Wyoming Range, Togwotee (somewhat) (Rentals Available), Uintas (Utah) (Rentals Available)
I've already hooked up with some locals for Bighorns (Rentals Available)

As far as out of the norm areas, I'd have to say Wyoming range from the Kemmerer end is probably one of the better. When 45 of the 50 trailers are from Utah on a busy weekend, it pretty much gives you a good feeling about your riding area.

Problem with that area is lack of rental places. I'm sure there may be more, but I know of only 1, a Yamaha dealer. So for those coming minus sleds, that could pose a problem.
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did not vote.would love to do something like this, but my sleds are for the flatlands and renting sleds just costs too much!4-500 bucks a day is just too much for me not to mention the cost of getting there....
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Things required to make an XCSP 700 ready for 6,000 to 9,000 feet:

330 jets- about $5.00

56 gram weights- $10.00 to $30.00 on ebay

22 tooth top gear (optional)- about $30.00

Parking your sled on the summit and taking it all in- priceless!
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Parking your sled on the summit and taking it all in- priceless!
Couldn't describe it any better. Making a long pull or working your way up thru the timber, either way, nothings more fullfilling than reaching the top and taking it all in. Pictures never seem to capture the raw beauty of it all.
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Well, the short track might have trouble with the long pull or working up through the timber if it's steep, but there are trails too.
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Well, the short track might have trouble with the long pull or working up through the timber if it's steep, but there are trails too.
Put a long track or 2 out front, break a good trail and most could probaby make it thru most areas. But yeah, there's plenty of trails to get up high, just the really high meadows are without them in most cases.

Either way, trail or backcountry riding, I'm fairly certian all would enjoy the ride and views. You've been here, you know what I'm talking about. Most of these views can't be seen other than by sled.
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Definitely!! You'd have to go on a 5 day ski tour to get where you can with a sled in an hour or two. I also prefer mountain scenery in the winter. The sparkling white snow is so dramatic, and the thin dry air makes your vision so sharp, it's like switching from VHS tape to High Definition.
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I have been thinking of going 136x1.25.....if I could find a deal on a decent track I am going to do it.....then maybe we will see if I can make it.
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I'm with mud on this one, I'll follow the crowd due to ignorance of west riding!! I for one don't need all the tourist crap and glamor and glitz, just give me some deep unmolested powder and I'll be a happy camper!!

I can't find the website for that antlers lodge, they said at haydays last year that their rental sleds were gonna be all brand new Doo Xp's!!
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I for one don't need all the tourist crap and glamor and glitz, just give me some deep unmolested powder and I'll be a happy camper!!

I can't find the website for that antlers lodge, they said at haydays last year that their rental sleds were gonna be all brand new Doo Xp's!!
I'm with ya stud, give me a decent bed and good food at the end of the day and I'm good to go. The bars kinda wasted on me, I don't drink so it's wasted time.

They may have went with XP's, most of them limit their rentals to 600's and down.
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Can't remember if they were 6 or 800's, I'd like one good night of drinking at the end, don't really want to go out and try riding at 10,000 feet hung over!! LOL
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You know what? I'm going to go out on a limb and be the first one to vote. I'll outline the reasons I voted for what I did.

The West Yellowstone/ Island Park area is just vast and offers a lot of variety.

For people who like to talk big about where they've been, this area allows you to ride West Yellowstone AND Island Park in one day.

For tourist type things, West Yellowstone can't be beat, because it is the gateway to Yellowstone Park in winter. A winter trip by snowcoach or sled into the park is a once-in-a-lifetime type experience.

For those intimidated by offtrail riding, the trail system is amazing and well-groomed. You can ride from Big Sky, Montana all the way down to Ashton, Idaho on this trail system. Since this area is a high plateau, riding meadows that are perfect for the uninitiated is as simple as steering your sled off the trail. Accessing easy carving meadows in other places, may not be as simple as here.

There are trails that go to the summit of peaks in this area. You can ride up to the summit of Two Top or Lion's Head on a trail. In some other areas, inexperienced riders my not be able to climb to places like this.

There are shit tons of rental places all along this area. I'm kind of surprised that Hogger could only rent Cats in West Yellowstone. Wait, I know there is Ski-Doo in West Yellowstone, and I know there is Polaris and Yammi in Island Park, so everyone should be covered.

The drawback for this area is that the location favors those coming from northern states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, North Dakota, and Montana.
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All great points and we'd have you as a guide I assume I've never riden the area myself, but I've heard and read lots of good things. We happen to settle on that, I'm in. I'm sure I can convince Jason and maybe a few others to come along for the ride as well.

BTW, I'll be in for at least weekend riding in any of the areas. May be unable to attend during week due to work. Yes, we do work during winter, I just chose not to this past one.....LOL
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I rode Island Park about 3 times last year. I was a gaper last year, because it was only my second year on a sled. Thus my experience with the more advanced riding areas up there is kind of limited. This year, I never did get up there to ride because on most of our rides we just fired up the sleds in the back yard and took off from there. Without much effort though, we should be able to find riding areas that would suit everyone's individual tastes.
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I rode Island Park about 3 times last year. I was a gaper last year, because it was only my second year on a sled. Thus my experience with the more advanced riding areas up there is kind of limited. This year, I never did get up there to ride because on most of our rides we just fired up the sleds in the back yard and took off from there. Without much effort though, we should be able to find riding areas that would suit everyone's individual tastes.
Hey if it come to it, we can always use the available trail maps for whatever area we decide on. I know I've got all of them for WY. & UT. Shouldn't be that hard to get some for ID., MT., or CO.

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