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Hence the term "point and shoot".

I agree, I can't imagine taking 300+ HP and pointing it uphill.......
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Good read!

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Here's a little insight into how forecasters do it :
http://utahavalanchecenter.org/education/how_advisories

Essential Gear:
http://utahavalanchecenter.org/resources/gear

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http://utahavalanchecenter.org/services/photosvideos
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Vert, talk to me about the Avalung. Is it something you'll be sticking in your mouth before you ride a hill? How well do you think it will work?
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Reports on it are very promising, theory seems sound. Will a person remember to bite mouthpiece, no idea yet. Will mouthpiece stay in place in an avy, again no idea. I think it will work OK.
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Some of those pics you can see the warning sign were there.
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Cuzz you may as well go ahead, you're dying to buy that bag ....... Just look closely at the Pulse before you throw down $1k + for a bag.
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Some of those pics you can see the warning sign were there.
Yea, a lot of them are under cornices or obvious.

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Cuzz you may as well go ahead, you're dying to buy that bag ....... Just look closely at the Pulse before you throw down $1k + for a bag.
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Attention Colorado riders. My sources in Colorado are saying that the snowpack is BAD. Avalanches are going to ground on numerous different aspects. I saw photos of a slide that went on a slope of barely 30 degrees. The first layer of snow is 3" of sugar and hoar. It is extremely unstable! They are saying that one decent storm could make the snowpack "disastrous." There have been skier triggered slides INBOUNDS on avalanche controlled terrain at both Vail and Crested Butte. I think I read that the CBMR slide resulted in a fatality. There are reports for dangerous snow in the Wasacht of Utah also. This is serious stuff. Don't mess around in avy terrain this season... PERIOD!

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Utah, Colorado, Wyoming ....... all 3 have same problem Rubi. Early snows in October/November and additional raincrusts resulted in a layer of ice near ground level. We encountered this on our ride late Nov. on northern/northeastern aspects. A layer of faceted snow on top with the POW laying atop that has indeed turn the Avy Dragons loose.

1 fatality already in Utah, young woman skiing inbounds triggered and was overcome.

Very good point made above, lesser slopes are coming loose this season. Doesn't need to be steep to be deadly. Take time to assess the snowpack you're riding on, watch stopping and parking in runout areas, and buy/learn to use a beacon and recovery tools to go with it.
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Do you guys think we should be reconsidering the trip to Colorado on New Years?
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Reconsider, probably not. We may just have to be a lot more careful, stay out of obvious danger, and ride smart. We've got a major storm forecast to come into Wy. And UT on Christmas Eve thru Christmas Day. They're forecasting 1 - 3' of snow for the mountains. Great to ride on, bad for the snowpack right now.

Colorado Avalanvhe Center You can see for yourself, Hazard is HIGH right now just about everywhere.
Utah Avalanche Center High here as well. Big storm hasn't started yet.
Western Wyoming Avalanche Center Hazard is High/Considerable, depending on which range is referenced.

Below is my "daily" email forecast from WY Avalanche Center in Jackson.

BTNF Western Wyoming Avalanche Bulletin

Jackson Ranger District, POB 1689, Jackson WY 83001
Issued: Mon December 22, 2008 6:02 PM


SITUATION

A strong Pacific weather system brought significant snowfall to Western Wyoming Sunday night through Monday. Storm totals in the Wyoming and Salt River ranges varied from 16 to 20 inches. The Tetons saw 12 to 16 inches and only 2 to 6 inches fell in the Togwotee Pass area. Mountain temperatures rose into the mid to upper teens as southwesterly ridgetop winds varied from 10 to 25 miles per hour.

This storm system produced easily triggered soft slabs and loose snow sluffs 12 to 18 inches in depth with some of them releasing naturally. Deeper hard slabs, failing on November weaknesses, also remain easily triggered. WYDOT performed avalanche hazard reduction on Glory Bowl and Twin Slides Monday morning. Glory bowl failed on these deeper layers while only new snow came out of Twin Slides. Backcountry skiers south of the Jackson Hole Mountain resort also triggered hard slabs to three feet in depth on these persistent weak layers.

FORECAST FOR Tuesday December 23, 2008

Drier air is expected to move into the area tonight with only light, scattered showers through Tuesday. Mountain temperatures will drop into the single digits Monday night before rising to near 10 on Tuesday. Ridgetop winds will be southwesterly at 10 to 25 miles per hour.

The general avalanche hazard is expected to be HIGH in the Southwest Trails / Greys River area where higher snowfall has loaded a weak, shallow snowpack. In the Teton area, CONSIDERABLE hazard is expected due to less snowfall and a deeper, less faceted snowpack. In these areas, both recently developed soft slabs to 2 feet in depth, and deeper hard slabs up to 4 feet, remain easily triggered and have some potential to release spontaneously as southwest winds transport snow into avalanche starting zones.



TREND FOR WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY

Another strong Pacific storm system is expected to impact the region Wednesday night through Thursday with storm totals up to 2 feet in the mountains. The general avalanche hazard will increase as new snow loads a suspect snowpack.

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Extreme: Wide spread areas of unstable snow exist and avalanches are certain on some slopes.
Backcountry travel should be avoided.

High: Mostly unstable snow exists on a variety of aspects and slope angles.
Natural avalanches are likely. Travel in avalanche terrain is not recommended.

Considerable: Dangerous unstable slabs exist on steep terrain on certain aspects.
Human triggered avalanches probable. Natural avalanches possible.

Moderate: Areas of unstable snow exist. Human triggered avalanches are possible.
Larger triggers may be necessary as the snowpack becomes more stable. Use caution.

Low: Mostly stable snow exists. Avalanches are unlikely except in isolated pockets.
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Bear in mind, there is NO forecasting that I can find for the BigHorns, The Snowies, or The Black Hills of WY.

The hazard is elevated thru-out the western states. This has happened each of the last 3 winters I've been out here. This year is compounded by the Icy layer near ground level. This ice can mean that a sluff can propogate into a killer quickly and without warning. Take time to assess the area you're riding in and stay off the obvious danger zones. If a slope slid last year early on, chances are it's loaded and waiting on you to trigger it. As much of a temptation as it is, stay out /off the pillowy, wind loaded areas.

Sorry for the extended post but this is a very real, very dangerous situation if riders don't pay attention. Forecasters are already unofficially predicting multiple burials over the Holiday Season.

I'd love for them to be wrong.


EDIT: I just received my warning for today for my home riding area. See below.

BTNF Backcountry Avalanche Hazard & Weather Forecast

Southwest Trails/Grey's River Area
Jackson Ranger District, POB 1689, Jackson WY 83001
Issued: Tue December 23, 2008 6:59 AM

M O U N T A I N - W E A T H E R - P A S T - 2 4 - H O U R S

5:00 AM Temperature at 10,400': -2 F
Maximum Temperature at 10,400' Past 24 Hours: 16 F
Average Wind Direction at 10,400' Past 24 Hours: Southwesterly
Average Wind Speed at 10,400' Past 24 Hours: 22 MPH
Maximum Wind Gust at 10,400' Past 24 Hours: 44 MPH
Snowfall/Prec. Past 24 Hours Blind Bull Meadow: 14"/0.7"
Total Snow Depth 9,300' Elevation Blind Bull Meadow: 43""
Total Snowfall Starting October 1 Blind Bull Meadow: 94"
Snowfall/Prec. Past 24 Hours Box Y Ranch: 16"/0.08"
Total Snow Depth 6,300' Elevation Box Y Ranch: 32"
Total Snowfall Starting October 1 Box Y Ranch: 66"

M O U N T A I N - W E A T H E R - F O R E C A S T - F O R - T O D A Y

Expect lingering scattered showers and overcast skies through the morning followed by mostly to partly cloudy skies this afternoon.

Temperature Forecast for 8,000'-9,000': Rising to near 10.
Ridge Top Wind Forecast for 10,000': Southwesterly at 10 to 20 miles per hour.
Snowfall Expected Next 24 Hours: 1 to 3"

G E N E R A L - A V A L A N C H E - A D V I S O R Y

The general avalanche hazard is HIGH. Twelve to sixteen inches of new snow of combined with periods of strong southwest winds have created soft slabs up to two feet in depth. Backcountry travelers could easily trigger these slabs, along with loose snow sluffs, on steep, wind-loaded slopes. Higher consequences will result from failure of deeper instabilities formed in November. Dangerous hard slabs, two to four feet in depth, could be triggered by backcountry travelers, step down from smaller slides, or release spontaneously under the load of the new snow. TRAVEL IN AVALANCHE TERRAIN IS NOT RECOMMENDED.

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Extreme: Wide spread areas of unstable snow exist and avalanches are certain on some slopes.
Backcountry travel should be avoided.

High: Mostly unstable snow exists on a variety of aspects and slope angles.
Natural avalanches are likely. Travel in avalanche terrain is not recommended.

Considerable: Dangerous unstable slabs exist on steep terrain on certain aspects.
Human triggered avalanches probable. Natural avalanches possible.

Moderate: Areas of unstable snow exist. Human triggered avalanches are possible.
Larger triggers may be necessary as the snowpack becomes more stable. Use caution.

Low: Mostly stable snow exists. Avalanches are unlikely except in isolated pockets.
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Looks like we should stick with Rabbit Ears and avoid Vail Pass. It just sucks to drive 17 hours and be even more limited in where you can safely go. I am going to be following the conditions closely prior to leaving.
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Looks like we should stick with Rabbit Ears and avoid Vail Pass. It just sucks to drive 17 hours and be even more limited in where you can safely go. I am going to be following the conditions closely prior to leaving.
I am fine riding meadows and staying off the bad hills. I'll give Ralph a shout and see what he says about this.
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Please do. I am not trying to bail but I really do not want to drive that far to ride trails.
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Yeah, I've been following the RE threads over there pretty close. We actually have 2 storms lined up to hit the Mountains hard this week. 1st storm coming in mid-week, 2nd toward end of week. If they got 16" yesterday - get another foot mid-week and another toward end of week, snowpack is going to be strained for awhile trying to adjust.

I still say take a careful look at it and adjust accordingly. It sucks to drive all this way and ride meadows yes. But it sucks worse if someone has to call your home to tell them you're coming home in a box. This shit happens out here. 3 weeks from now it may all be settled down and it'll be ride anywhere time. No way to know yet. Remember, even though it's the mountains, our season is just getting started too. By that I mean where it is safe to get off-trail.
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OK Cuzz, check your PM's on SW, what's PJ have to say?
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It's pretty unstable. I dug a pit last week and there was basically 4-5' of powder resting on top of 6" of crystallized snow. There is plenty of fun to be had, ya just gotta be careful! 1 person at a time on the hill and everybody watches him ready to go if, God forbid, something were to happen.

We received almost 2' of new last night!:D:D

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I wouldn't get worked up about it and reconsider a trip. Last year was a strong snowpack all season where I rode, and I still didn't ride in avalanche terrain very much. I could play for weeks out there, and never really be in too much danger of triggering a deadly slide even in high avy danger. If, on the other hand, all you do is highmark steep slopes, you might as well stay home.
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There's another post over there I'll try to find the link for. Has some good pics of an avy runout area that "was" a forest. Now it's a mowed down path of broken trees. Fairly mild slope too. So the fallacy that boondocking in the trees or at lower elevations is perfectly safe might want to be re-thought. Pictures are pretty awesome, show the power of an avy pretty clearly.

Just because one area is bad right now, doesn't mean they all are. Transversly the opposite is true. Without being there and seeing firsthand, I'd have to say the southern aspects are probably the safest areas to play in/on. Northern and eastern I would avoid even at lower degree slopes.
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So honestly, is it worth coming out now or will we be more limited? It was mentioned to just come out another time instead a little later in the season. I have a beacon but still never took an Avy course and scared myself to death watching videos on Youtube one night. I don't know what to expect for terrain in RE and BP... but hear it isn't as 'steep' as Vail. We planned to ride there a few days but think we'll be sticking with RE because of conditions.
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The Avy danger on RE is limited, there are only a couple of real steep slopes and you can't even climb those yet, just due to the size of the boulders on them. Vail has always been bad for avalanches in the backcountry. In all of my years I have never seen a nasty slide. I can show you plenty of areas on RE that will keep you entertained for hours.
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