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At the suggestion of Rubi, I've posted this topic in a new thread to segragate from original Thread topic. Original Thread here :

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Okay, so we discussed avalanches, steps to protect against them, and tools to deal with them. Backpacks have been discussed. Maps, navagation, and common sense were touched on.

Now let's look at what's in that pack. I'll compile all the shit I carry, but some of you look at what you carry/or think you should carry when you come out.


Then how about attire, not your outer layer, but what's under it. Remember if this happens in Jan./Feb., temps can be down well below zero in the early hours of the ride. Let's see what you plan on wearing and I'll list what works for me.(BTW, something most of you don't know is while I grew up in the midwest, I've spent most of the last 28 years on the Texas Gulf Coast, you know, warm,humid winters) I hate being cold and learned quick what works up high.

OK compile your preferences.........
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Ok I'll start lol.
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I'll be wearing long johns top and bottom, jeans, T-shirt, sweat shirt, 3 pairs of socks, bibs, jacket, baclavia.
In Backpack: water blatter filled with monster, donuts for a snack, shovel, avalanche probe and beacon, maybe a couple nutty bars or swiss cake rolls, 2 beers for when I eat the donuts(will counter the effects of the beers).
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LMFAO (@ the beer excuse) OK that's at least a start on it. I'll let some others post up before I add in the list of what I carry and my recommendations on attire.

Thanks for getting it started.
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Ok lol now I'll answer serious lol.

After our trip in the up last year both rubi and gerbil shared with ibs and myself how foolish we were to be wearing jeans lol. So with that noted I'll be completly honest and say I'm not 100% sure what I'll be wearing under my bibs but will give a start.
I don't like the bibs I currently have and have already decided to purchase some Klim wear this off season. Looking on Klims website a month or so ago I also decided that since I'll be spending the money for Klim bibs I might as well also get some more breathable under garments, but not totally sure what to get yet.
Now locally here I wear jeans, T-shirt, bibs, and my jacket. I wear long johns if it's very cold otherwise I don't bother.
As far as backpack equipment: water blatter, granola bars, sandwich or 2, shovel, avalanche beacon and probe. I found out last year that nutty bars don't hold up well to the bouncing around lol. All I drink on the trail is water.

Ok now you can pick me apart lol. I look forward to hearing what you mountain riders carry in your backpacks.
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Ok lol now I'll answer serious lol.

After our trip in the up last year both rubi and gerbil shared with ibs and myself how foolish we were to be wearing jeans lol. So with that noted I'll be completly honest and say I'm not 100% sure what I'll be wearing under my bibs but will give a start.
I don't like the bibs I currently have and have already decided to purchase some Klim wear this off season. Looking on Klims website a month or so ago I also decided that since I'll be spending the money for Klim bibs I might as well also get some more breathable under garments, but not totally sure what to get yet.
Now locally here I wear jeans, T-shirt, bibs, and my jacket. I wear long johns if it's very cold otherwise I don't bother.
As far as backpack equipment: water blatter, granola bars, sandwich or 2, shovel, avalanche beacon and probe. I found out last year that nutty bars don't hold up well to the bouncing around lol. All I drink on the trail is water.

Ok now you can pick me apart lol. I look forward to hearing what you mountain riders carry in your backpacks.
No, not gonna hear any tearing down from me. I wouldn't expect to see the same stuff in yours as in mine.

If I may suggest, rather than the Klim baselayer, look into the mid-layer they offer. I tried the base layer and actually didn't care for it.

BTW http://firstplaceparts.com has past seasons gear on sale for 25% off, helps on that steep price tag Klim carries.

As to the bibs and jackets, all the CYI shit aside, they do exactly what they claim, keep you dry and protected from the wind. They are NOT by themselves warm, that's the base layer and mid layers job. Plus you have the CYI factor of really looking cool on the mountain.....lol.

If some more will post up their thoughts, I'll go ahead with adding in my lists/recommended attire.
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Ahhhh... what to bring.

For gear I wear my jacket with removable liner for starters. If it is cold the liner is great and once I am warmed up it feels great. I say good gear is a must but that is personal preference. I always have extra gloves, extra goggles, extra socks, another layer for up top, an extra backlava. All of my gear is FXR. I studied, looked at, compared, Klim and HMK and liked some of the features more with the FXR. I went riding with some guy with Klim boots and they complained about their feet being cold which made me wonder. I was only wearing white socks and was fine.

I always have my GPS tracking to leave a bread crumb trail, too. Petroleum jelly soaked cotton balls to start a fire, lighter/water proof matches, a Snobunji Rattler, tow rope (can also be used to make the Rattler into a Cobra), plenty of chocolate bars, granola bars, Power Aid, winter hat, some extra tools, I have an HMK shovel with the ice pick (good for cleaning out snow out of the foot wells or whaever you want to call them), a beacon if riding an area where it is needed, probe, cell phone. I have a bag mounted where my gas tank goes and a custom gas tank carrier above my light. I always have plenty of room. I know there is other stuff but can't think right now.
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Ahhhh... what to bring.

For gear I wear my jacket with removable liner for starters. If it is cold the liner is great and once I am warmed up it feels great. I say good gear is a must but that is personal preference. I always have extra gloves, extra goggles, extra socks, another layer for up top, an extra backlava. All of my gear is FXR. I studied, looked at, compared, Klim and HMK and liked some of the features more with the FXR. I went riding with some guy with Klim boots and they complained about their feet being cold which made me wonder. I was only wearing white socks and was fine.

I always have my GPS tracking to leave a bread crumb trail, too. Petroleum jelly soaked cotton balls to start a fire, lighter/water proof matches, a Snobunji Rattler, tow rope (can also be used to make the Rattler into a Cobra), plenty of chocolate bars, granola bars, Power Aid, winter hat, some extra tools, I have an HMK shovel with the ice pick (good for cleaning out snow out of the foot wells or whaever you want to call them), a beacon if riding an area where it is needed, probe, cell phone. I have a bag mounted where my gas tank goes and a custom gas tank carrier above my light. I always have plenty of room. I know there is other stuff but can't think right now.
Isn't it funny, when loading up to go you just know you've got everything, but sit down and try to list it all and your mind goes blank. I wrote list last night and so far I've added to it 3 times already shit I forgot on original write-up.

Really good list, shows already you have been to the Sacred Lands.......
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Isn't it funny, when loading up to go you just know you've got everything, but sit down and try to list it all and your mind goes blank. I wrote list last night and so far I've added to it 3 times already shit I forgot on original write-up.

Really good list, shows already you have been to the Sacred Lands.......
I leave all of my stuff in a pile in the garage just so I don't forget. When I pack up I have a system and can pack with little time. I leave the sled geared up, the backpack ready and just pick up and go for the most part. I'll go through my garage, go to Home Depot and just look at everything. If it isn't too big and I think I can use it I grab it. I've read countless threads about what to bring and do think some people are a bit nutz. I used to bring a lot of tools but realized that it is just easier to tow the sled in for repairs if it is that bad. Granted sometimes you can't tow it in but if everyone in the group has certain things you're not double packing. I still find something new every time I decide to go through my gear and think of what I could have used when I was out there. Oh, a saw, but that is part of my shovel... SEE.

I am sure this is obvious but I think it is a must to stop and help any/every stranger. I always roll by and wait for a thumbs up. When I was just out in the Snowies some guys wife or kid rode too close to a pine tree. If you have been out west you know what happens next. Anyway, between his young son (13 or 14), his daughter and his wife they weren't going anywhere. My group basically did all the work to get the sled out and he was appreciative of our assistance. If I see a sled sitting somewhere I go and look in the area for its owner. That is exactly what I did with the guy I just mentioned. If we didn't he would still be sitting there I bet.
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I leave all of my stuff in a pile in the garage just so I don't forget. When I pack up I have a system and can pack with little time. I leave the sled geared up, the backpack ready and just pick up and go for the most part. I'll go through my garage, go to Home Depot and just look at everything. If it isn't too big and I think I can use it I grab it. I've read countless threads about what to bring and do think some people are a bit nutz. I used to bring a lot of tools but realized that it is just easier to tow the sled in for repairs if it is that bad. Granted sometimes you can't tow it in but if everyone in the group has certain things you're not double packing. I still find something new every time I decide to go through my gear and think of what I could have used when I was out there. Oh, a saw, but that is part of my shovel... SEE.

I am sure this is obvious but I think it is a must to stop and help any/every stranger. I always roll by and wait for a thumbs up. When I was just out in the Snowies some guys wife or kid rode too close to a pine tree. If you have been out west you know what happens next. Anyway, between his young son (13 or 14), his daughter and his wife they weren't going anywhere. My group basically did all the work to get the sled out and he was appreciative of our assistance. If I see a sled sitting somewhere I go and look in the area for its owner. That is exactly what I did with the guy I just mentioned. If we didn't he would still be sitting there I bet.


Likewise with us, you never know when it could be you needing a little help.

BTW I agree on the tools, I carry the minimum, used a pair of pliers more than once to change plugs. Too damn cold to work on them out in mtns. I'm adding to my kit all the time, haven't actually removed much from stuff I carry.

Go ahead Cuzz, explain what happens when a treewell gets ya....... it's funny after it happens once or twice, 1st time scared the shit outta me......lol.
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Likewise with us, you never know when it could be you needing a little help.

BTW I agree on the tools, I carry the minimum, used a pair of pliers more than once to change plugs. Too damn cold to work on them out in mtns. I'm adding to my kit all the time, haven't actually removed much from stuff I carry.

Go ahead Cuzz, explain what happens when a treewell gets ya....... it's funny after it happens once or twice, 1st time scared the shit outta me......lol.
Exactly, you never know when it will be you. Same reason I'll help someone in the group every time they get stuck (unless in a bad area or where I can get stuck). I'll make suggestions for the next time but will still help every time.

Treewells suck you in if ya get to close. You have two options when you're near one. STOP and wait for someone to help ya before you go in, hammer it and get on the opposite side, close your eyes and pray you don't get sucked in (I do this all the time and it has always worked), or get sucked in and get to know the tree for a while.
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I am sure this is obvious but I think it is a must to stop and help any/every stranger. I always roll by and wait for a thumbs up. When I was just out in the Snowies some guys wife or kid rode too close to a pine tree. If you have been out west you know what happens next. Anyway, between his young son (13 or 14), his daughter and his wife they weren't going anywhere. My group basically did all the work to get the sled out and he was appreciative of our assistance. If I see a sled sitting somewhere I go and look in the area for its owner. That is exactly what I did with the guy I just mentioned. If we didn't he would still be sitting there I bet.
I'd like to think that is just snowmobile law. If I see someone sitting whether their hood is up or not I wait for a thumbs up before I continue on.

I'd like to hear brands of gear you guys use and why if there is a reason you have that particular brand of gear. In the up last year I asked rubi about his Klim wear and there were 2 other guys we were talking to at a gas station that wore full Klim gear that ride out west too. Between the 3 of them knowing that they all rode out west as well they all sang praises to Klim, yes they mentioned the higher pricetag but comfort and long lasting gear is well worth it.
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I'd like to think that is just snowmobile law. If I see someone sitting whether their hood is up or not I wait for a thumbs up before I continue on.

I'd like to hear brands of gear you guys use and why if there is a reason you have that particular brand of gear. In the up last year I asked rubi about his Klim wear and there were 2 other guys we were talking to at a gas station that wore full Klim gear that ride out west too. Between the 3 of them knowing that they all rode out west as well they all sang praises to Klim, yes they mentioned the higher pricetag but comfort and long lasting gear is well worth it.
Snowmobile law to ask if they need help, yes. Snowmobile law to search out the person if you see a stranded sled, no. In the mountains I say you need to make some sort of effort to find the person. It might be following tracks, it could be scanning the area, it could be shutting off your machine and yelling for them... ya gotta make an effort I think.

Klim is good gear but some things are overpriced IMO. I have the Klim F4 helmet and love it. I looked at FXR, HMK and KLIM and decided on FXR. It started with just a jacket and then I decided I wanted all new gear later in the season. I can't say that is better or worse.. I just liked some of the features more.
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I'd like to think that is just snowmobile law. If I see someone sitting whether their hood is up or not I wait for a thumbs up before I continue on.
Just common courtesy, again you never know when it's gonna be your turn.

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I'd like to hear brands of gear you guys use and why if there is a reason you have that particular brand of gear. In the up last year I asked rubi about his Klim wear and there were 2 other guys we were talking to at a gas station that wore full Klim gear that ride out west too. Between the 3 of them knowing that they all rode out west as well they all sang praises to Klim, yes they mentioned the higher pricetag but comfort and long lasting gear is well worth it.
I wear either Klim or Castle X Racing gear, base layer is Cabelos ThermoStat(best I've found for the buck), mid layer is also from Cabelos, PolarTec fleece bottoms, upper mid layer is Klim MX jersey and if really cold I have a Castle X lightweight liner. I don't go as heavy on top due to wearing a TekVest. Go too heavy with it on and I'm hot.

The Klim wear does what it claims, keeps you dry and stops the wind. It is tough, long lasting gear. Weigh that it'll last you some years against initial price and I'd say it's a good deal.

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I'll go ahead and throw in an attire list of recommendations.

Base Layer (against skin)
This should be some type of breathable, quick wicking fabric. Ideally a synthetic type material.
Cabelos ThermoStat is an excellent, economical choice. Stays warm and dry.
Socks
Again try using a synthetic type. Warmer than cotton, stays drier, doesn’t retain moisture.
I prefer UnderArmor winter socks

Mid-Layer (2nd layer)
Can’t say it enough, avoid cotton, try sticking with a synthetic or blended garments.
Cabellos again has economical solution, PolarTec fleece

Outer Layer
This is entirely up to the wearer and what they prefer. I would recommend it be waterproof and breathable.(Keep the moisture out and let sweat escape)

Also add in a baklava, sun glasses(polarized if possible), a head cap, and I prefer a neck gaiter to keep out drafts and the POW when it’s deep.

Biggest thing is stay away from cotton, it holds way too much moisture against you and will end up making a great day miserable. Blue jeans, tee shirts, “longjohn type” thermals, this stuff just isn’t going to keep you as comfortable as the synthetics will. Bring them along and change at the trailhead if you have to.


Remember, this is based on what I've already experienced riding in the backcountry. I went thru the thermals and jeans phase and had a miserable, cold time. I learned from those mistakes and adjusted. Now I don't even own any thermal underwear, I wear the synthetics for both work and play. What your parents used was great for their time, time has moved on and the technology has moved with it. Get onboard and move with time.

NOTE: For economical solutions to Cold Weather gear, Cabelos is hard to beat. They have most anything you would need in gear at reasonable prices.
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I'd like to hear brands of gear you guys use and why if there is a reason you have that particular brand of gear. In the up last year I asked rubi about his Klim wear and there were 2 other guys we were talking to at a gas station that wore full Klim gear that ride out west too. Between the 3 of them knowing that they all rode out west as well they all sang praises to Klim, yes they mentioned the higher pricetag but comfort and long lasting gear is well worth it.
I don't think that where you ride has anything to do with what kind of gear you should wear. I sweat just as much tearing up a cornice in Minnesota as I do in Wyoming. It's HOW you ride that is important. If I rode trails all the time, I would wear insulated/quilted pants and jackets because of the speed and lack of activity. If I'm going to be riding offtrail (which is all the time,) I dress for athletic activity.

The wicking baselayer is the key to whole system. Get a breathable top and bottom that is stretchy and skintight. I like zip turtlenecks for my shirt because when you stop for a cooldown you can zip it down and really lose heat and moisture fast. RU Outside makes a great baselayer, and my Top Value award would have to go to Lands End. Even though I own a ton of high-dollar wicking layers, my Land's End stuff is probably my favorite(and cheapest.) Round out the ensemble with a good pair of woolblend ski socks, and a pair of breathable boxer/briefs. Leave the whitey tighties or cotton boxers at home! Like it or not, your boys are gonna sweat, so don't store that sweat down there. Let it breathe! For the ladies, either have IBS buy you "a large collection of boyshorts" or maybe try a fleece thong. Just make sure it isn't cotton. For all of your baselayer stuff try to steer clear of that shiny lycra-looking stuff that the NFL players advertise. I got some of that last year and it sucks. It makes you cold, it feels funny, and it stinks to high heaven about 10 minutes after you put it on. If you wanna blow big coin, and have the latest and greatest, go with merino wool baselayers. When you sweat REALLY hard, you smell like a wet sheep (Olaf told me what that smells like,) but it goes away when you cool off. That stuff is amazing because showers and laundry are really optional. You can wear it forever and it never really gets funky! To check it out online and laugh at granola heads, click this link http://www.icebreaker.com/site/index.html.

The next layer is your midlayer or insulation layer. Polartec fleece is probably a pretty safe bet here. It's cheap and plentiful these days and works quite well. Try to get something that is close-fitting and not bulky. A halfzip longsleeve top is nice, or a fleece vest works awesome if it isn't too cold. I like to wear a Driclime Windshirt over my baselayer. http://www.rockcreek.com/products/li...RCO_googlebase
This thing wicks like a champ and its slippery nylon shell will not bind and stick to your outer layer. I usually put a fleece vest over it for warmth, or you can wear it as your outer layer if it warms up, and it is the most versatile piece of clothing I've ever worn. I even wear mine as pajamas when I have the furnace turned down real low!

The outerlayer is your first defense against the weather, and it is also important to keep your breathability theme going. Basically, Goretex is the only way to go. It keeps you dry if someone sprays you with a firehose, and it still breathes quite well. Goretex XCR is their latest and greatest product, and Goretex will not license a crappy garment. If it says Goretex on it, it will not be a piece of junk. Polaris is using a new waterproof breathable material called eVent. The US military uses this stuff, and it is supposed to breathe better than Goretex. I was really tempted to get some eVent clothes at the West Yellowstone Expo, but they were sold out of my size. I like my Klim bibs, but they do have problems. The top part of the bib under the jacket is way too thick. It is covered with pockets and zippers, and I sweat like crazy under it. When I take my bibs off, my belly and chest is totally soaked, and I don't think this is acceptable. My next pants will not be Klim, but some that have a stretchy mesh upper for the bibs. I don't like pants that aren't bibs. Bibs are the only way to totally avoid getting snow down your crack, and that is a condition I want to avoid. Buying your pants long is pretty important. One reason I like my Klim bibs is that I bought a "Tall" and I never get snow in my boots. Pants with an inner snow cuff is important, and a way of snapping your pants to your boots is really nice; especially in really deep snow. The jacket should be a goretex type material just like the pants. Pitzips or other zippered vents are really nice, and big zippered pockets are always handy. Getting a jacket that allows effortless range-of-motion is pretty important. I hate jackets that make me feel like the Michelin Man. It really cramps my style and makes ultra-aggressive riding difficult. I tried on Klim, Polaris and Scott jackets at West Yellowstone. The Klim jacket seemed a little bit crunchy and restricting in the trunk area, but arm motion was really nice. The Polaris and Scott jackets were a little lighter and seemed to feel less constricting. I would have gotten a Poo jacket, but they didn't have my size in the eVent. I got a Scott jacket because it was about 1/3 the price of the Klim and it was still a Goretex XCR product. It could be longer at the waist, and it needs pitzips, but it's a pretty nice jacket.

One thing I notice is that snowmobile clothing kind of lags behind ski clothing for very athletic activity. A lot of snowmobile clothing is aimed at trailriders, and some of the mountain riding stuff is still influenced by that. Ski clothing is built to be nonrestricting and lightweight. This feature makes it very comfortable for offtrail riding. I actually prefer my ski clothing over my snowmobiling stuff for sledding. I wear my snowmobile clothing mainly because the smell of 2-stroke smoke on my ski clothes was chasing away the hot granola-head chicks in the lift line! I used to waterski with an airline pilot who was a big mountain snowmobiler. Cost was not an issue with him, and he always bought ski clothes for sledding. I think he was a wise man. The ski clothes are built with features for highly athletic activity, and their mobility and breathability really reflects this. The ski clothes also have features like pockets that are made to work with a backpack on. Just like Klim, the good ski clothes have a lifetime warranty that they stand behind. I've been wearing the same Marmot jacket since 1996. I sent it in for warranty a couple years ago, and they put a new zipper and mesh liner into it for free! The jacket was close to 10 years old! (I've got another Marmot jacket for sale in the Classified section.) Check out this place for good deals on technical clothing. I think they even carry some snowmobiling stuff. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/def...a_trading_post

After writing a post the length of War and Peace, I'll just say you can wear whatever you want. If you're tough and don't care about being uncomfortable, wear jeans. If you don't want to spend much money and want to increase your comfort a lot, lose the jeans and cotton longjohns and go with a nice breathable baselayer. Get some Lands End stuff, and it'll probably cost less than $40 for a great pair of bottoms and a good shirt. You can purchase new outer layers when your old stuff wears out.
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Excellent advice thru and thru. I knew you of all people would understand and advocate NOT using cotton. I'll have to check out that baselayer, never tried it yet. I lean toward the ThermaStat gear because it works and price is right. I think top and bottom on it are around $50-60 for the pair. The tops are quarter zip mock turtle neck and the sleeves have half gloves on them to help warm the hands and prevent drafts up the sleeve. Pants have extra long cuffs to help prevent riding up.

Rubi's definitely right on the UnderArmor baselayer. It isn't worth the bucks, it looks great in the NFL, but I won't wear it any more. Then if you don't pay attention, you end up with the summer wear and really freeze.
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I know there has to be more of you that have ideas or thoughts on the above. Quit just lookin and post up.
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i dont like the water blatter seems end up frozen,keep2 or 3 big bottles waters in trunk of sled .
And lots of gloves like 6 pairs .as far as tools a upgraded form of the fac. tool kit.mabey goes with out saing extra belt, one thats broke in and not burned if possable.
Extra set of goggels.just some things i didnt see listed
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I never leave home without my thong on. It makes me feel kinda funny like sliding down the climbing rope in gym class.
LMAO.....funy mental picture there.

Seriously though, you ride mountains, list what you prefer & why along with the thong.
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Ok lol now I'll answer serious lol.

After our trip in the up last year both rubi ibs and myself shared a gerbil..So with that noted I'll be completly honest and say I'm not 100% sure what I'll be wearing under my bibs but will give a start.
I don't like the bibs I currently have and have already decided to purchase some Klim wear this off season. Looking on Klims website a month or so ago I also decided that since I'll be spending the money for Klim bibs I might as well also get some more breathable under garments, but not totally sure what to get yet.
Now locally here I wear jeans, T-shirt, bibs, and my jacket. I wear long johns if it's very cold otherwise I don't bother.
As far as backpack equipment: water blatter, granola bars, sandwich or 2, shovel, avalanche beacon and probe. I found out last year that nutty bars don't hold up well to the bouncing around lol. All I drink on the trail is water.

Ok now you can pick me apart lol. I look forward to hearing what you mountain riders carry in your backpacks.

what?? man glad i wasnt able to make that trip,
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Ok lol now I'll answer serious lol.

After our trip in the up last year both rubi and gerbil shared with ibs and myself how foolish we were to be wearing jeans lol. So with that noted I'll be completly honest and say I'm not 100% sure what I'll be wearing under my bibs but will give a start.
I don't like the bibs I currently have and have already decided to purchase some Klim wear this off season. Looking on Klims website a month or so ago I also decided that since I'll be spending the money for Klim bibs I might as well also get some more breathable under garments, but not totally sure what to get yet.
Now locally here I wear jeans, T-shirt, bibs, and my jacket. I wear long johns if it's very cold otherwise I don't bother.
As far as backpack equipment: water blatter, granola bars, sandwich or 2, shovel, avalanche beacon and probe. I found out last year that nutty bars don't hold up well to the bouncing around lol. All I drink on the trail is water.

Ok now you can pick me apart lol. I look forward to hearing what you mountain riders carry in your backpacks.

Go HERE for that thread.
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Has this thread just died? Or are the rest of those going West next season going to ride without benefit of gear ? That's scary mental pic............
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