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Old 11-11-2008
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This is an interesting site I visit from time to time just to remind myself Avalanches aren't anything to mess around with. Some of these folks were experienced skiers and snowmobilers that got killed by making obvious mistakes. If you plan on riding in the mountains read some of these descriptions of circumstances and try to learn from them.

http://www.jhavalanche.org/date.html
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One thing that always scares me is the trauma and force of the Avy. That one guy who died in the Snowies last year was uncovered. I know an ABS bag won't save your life but I wish they weren't so expensive.
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One thing that always scares me is the trauma and force of the Avy. That one guy who died in the Snowies last year was uncovered. I know an ABS bag won't save your life but I wish they weren't so expensive.
Good point on the bag. I'd love to have one of the larger ones, but even I can only take so much raping on these prices. $1000 + for a backpack with wings is slamming it just way too deep for me.

BTW P800, that same site provides western WY Avy reports in your email. Simple signup for the area you have interest in.
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Good point on the bag. I'd love to have one of the larger ones, but even I can only take so much raping on these prices. $1000 + for a backpack with wings is slamming it just way too deep for me.

BTW P800, that same site provides western WY Avy reports in your email. Simple signup for the area you have interest in.
I usually go on that site and check the ave risk. Normally when the risk is up it is up everywhere.
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Here's an interesting tidbit about this recent warming trend the west is getting. The snowpack that has fallen on higher elevations is settling and crusting up to serve as our base for later in season. Depending on the extent and amount of melt/freeze cycles, how much of a crust forms, and how these next storms come in on us, Mother Nature could be setting us up for an avalanche prone year this season.

Rubi I know you ski out here, am I reading the signs correctly or have I missed something?
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This type of weather pattern could be a blessing or a curse. If you want to start out a real year of death scenario, just have a base layer that doesn't stick to the ground all year. Then you have avalanches that go to ground depth all season. Not good. I think this warm weather and settling might help the snowpack stick to the ground, thus avoiding a year of death by that mechanism. I don't really know about how the snowpack reacts if the ground isn't frozen underneath and I don't know if this is an issue at this time of year or not. Another way to set up for a bad year is to have an icy fracture layer form early in the season. This may be happening at certain elevations considering the warmup you've described. I guess the best thing that could happen right now would be to have heavy wet snow fall at relatively warm temperatures. If it got really cold right now, and low moisture content snow fell, I think that could be the worst thing that could happen. You certainly hit the nail on the head with your concern about the early season snowpack though. If things start badly in the first few feet of base, it can screw up the whole year. A few years ago, there was a nightmare scenario set up early in the season. All the grungy granola head skiers that hadn't ridden a ski lift in 10 or 15 years bought passes to the resort. They knew early on that the backcountry was going to kill them that year. Just hope that isn't the case this year.
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That was along the lines of what I was thinking. A wet storm or 2 next would be better than Dec. getting here and getting pounded with feet of powder on top of frozen, crusted base layer. Seems almost any aspect could slide under those conditions.

Yeah the breaks all the way to bare ground are always bad news, none are good, but those would seem to be the most dangerous.

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I understand your obsession with the steep and deep but avy's scare the hellout of me and makes me not to want to try mountain riding.
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Lots of things in life are dangerous. Backcountry riding is no different, approach the sport with the needed education and equipment, ride within your limits, and above all, use some common sense.

We aren't SledNecks, probably never will be, don't care to be. We're for the most part, everyday average amatuer riders. Knowing what to do and not do, when to back away and take another route, and riding with people you know and trust these will all allow you to have a great time and return home worn out and safe.

No reason to be scared, just respect the power of the snow and what it can do.
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