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Minnesota is the only Midwest state to still be drowning in "Kool-aid" and one of the extreme few in the country.


I was shocked in Illinois we were able to defeat the crooks of Chicago, but we did!!!!

Sadly neither choice was good....

Choice between a Mobster or a Liar.....



To all those who voted NO MATER which party you believed in THANK YOU!!!!

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POLITICS OF THE PAST ARE UNACCEPTABLE to "WE the People"
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MN almost turned Red

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As of this morning counts yep... when I stopped watching it was still 85% blue....

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look at minnesota voting history, werent we the only state at one time to not have voted for regan?

in our town there is a ton of old dfl'ers that dont use the internet, they dont research the canidates. they simply pull the lever because thats what they have done for the last 60 years. they dont realize that there party has become the melting pot of social special interest groups and activists.
well see what that dayton does. he already has said that he wants to tax the rich and not stop spending. his words from a radio interview. he also wants to get the epa control or in bed with the goverment farming programs. that means if the epa is in charge cow farts will be taxed like in other states, dust will become a pollutant, so basically a guy will have to farm at night so and claim to not have any animals. its bad enough when already having the soil and water district watching over you with satalite imaging to make sure you arent changing any ditchs or water ways, making sure there is no manure or feed lot run off.
i can picture school spending to go through the roof.

minnesota is in the same positions as every other state. the infrastructore, sewer, water, bridges, damns are all way behind time to get replaced. at this point they are on a priority list and it wont be long until it is a national dissaster. it will be interesting to see if dayton puts people to work fixing these systems.
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Well I feel much better knowing that the sec. of state and attorney general...BOTH who are ACORN members got re-elected and also will be over seeing the Gov recount.

It's the people in the TC that voted for dip shit, out state didnt. (when he was a senator he got kicked off of commitys because he was so stupid.)

But we took the state senate first time in 38 years.
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Might want to recheck the map there Snow......there were quite a few blue counties especailly in Northern MN....Besides you think having a total power of one party is a good way to go?Certainly didnt work out so well for the dems. Since repubs have control of the house and senate a dem gov. would be the better choice.
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Well I feel much better knowing that the sec. of state and attorney general...BOTH who are ACORN members got re-elected and also will be over seeing the Gov recount.

It's the people in the TC that voted for dip shit, out state didnt. (when he was a senator he got kicked off of commitys because he was so stupid.)

But we took the state senate first time in 38 years.
Ironic....lmao
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Sorry Rock I know how to spell. Well pretty good any wase.
Puter has been locking up and I loose track of where I was.

So typical that a lib is always attacking others.

Maybe you want to start calling me names again, well I guess you kind of did in your post above.
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didnt he flee washington and refuse to go back becuase of a threat?

now that there is some checks and balance in washington i hope this election sent a message. either do what the people want and what got you into office or you are gone.

i am not very excited for huge change, just pictureing lots of stail mating and the media telling us how the party of no is really blocking hope and change.
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Come on mud....join the argument. I see MI traded all the dems for Repubs.....do you think MI will turn around now?
Or do you think Detroit will still be a shit hole?
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I'd like to think with our Governor out that yes, things will turn around.

I am one of the most unpolitical people you could meet. Sure they may let us vote, but do you really think it makes a difference? We are the rats they control, and they give us just enough rights to let us think we can make a difference in voting. Get rid of most of the government and let the people vote on all issues, and do what the majority votes. That's the way I'd like to see things. I look at that fuckin debt clock and find it funny as hell that they have the nerve to put what it equates to per citizen, I didn't fuckin vote for all that spending.

That is the first and only political rant from me you will probably ever read.
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nothing in mn will change.
i am pretty sure there isnt one of them strong enough to stand up and say " heres the new budget for public schools and you have to learn to live with it."

heck there wont be any changes even on small stuff. to many people in mn are trained and now beleiving that we are all entitled.

if i was at the state level i would propose a bill that would transfer public schools to private schools and familys would get a tax waiver for there tuition.

i would dissolve mindot and most state employees positions and turn them over to private sector. only need enough people for inspectors and paper pushers.

welfare reform would be no single male that is healthy would qualify for welfare. assistance would be there for eductation or if you have employment you would be able to qualify or a short term assisntance. only if you have a steady job and meet drug screens and other easy requirements. you get one shot at assisted education, after that make a living or move to another state.
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nothing in mn will change.
i am pretty sure there isnt one of them strong enough to stand up and say " heres the new budget for public schools and you have to learn to live with it."

heck there wont be any changes even on small stuff. to many people in mn are trained and now beleiving that we are all entitled.

if i was at the state level i would propose a bill that would transfer public schools to private schools and familys would get a tax waiver for there tuition.

i would dissolve mindot and most state employees positions and turn them over to private sector. only need enough people for inspectors and paper pushers.

You'd have to get rid of prevailing wage in order for that to save any money. While many county, city and state workers sit on their asses a lot, it's partly because they work right next to people from the private sector that are making 2-3 times more than they are.

welfare reform would be no single male or female that is healthy would qualify for welfare. assistance would be there for eductation or if you have employment you would be able to qualify or a short term assisntance. only if you have a steady job and meet drug screens and other easy requirements. you get one shot at assisted education, after that make a living or move to another state.Mandatory drug test every time you get a paycheck, and the cost comes out of the recipients check.
But things will probably never be fixed, the worse things get the more people that will be unemployed, the more people will abuse the system, the more it will break.
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nope, the right to work states are lazy and slow. they dont get paid much so that is how they work. see it all the time when coworkers go out of state.

the right wingers always are talking about how if we got rid of prevaling wage our repairs would be so much cheaper. ha! really, i worked for a company that alot of there business was redoing what the cheap companys did 5 years ago. not what the good companys did 40 years ago. for 10$ hr what kind of trained worker are you going to get to repair your clean water or sanitation? what kind of schooling has he been to?

st paul has there own water team, so if there is a break or water pipe line that needs repair or even just a wet tap for a new house or something, the contractor digs the hole, they come out and do the tap and then go home. it took 2 bread style trucks and a small team of guys to do a wet tap. when i did them i would do them myself, i didnt need 3 people running up and down the ditch bank to get me stuff.
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I was so thankful that Phil Hare got his fat ass voted outta office.
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I was so thankful that Phil Hare got his fat ass voted outta office.

No Shit!! That guy was F'd up in a big way!!


and Alexi got handed a defeat!!!
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look at minnesota voting history, werent we the only state at one time to not have voted for regan?

in our town there is a ton of old dfl'ers that dont use the internet, they dont research the canidates. they simply pull the lever because thats what they have done for the last 60 years. they dont realize that there party has become the melting pot of social special interest groups and activists.
well see what that dayton does. he already has said that he wants to tax the rich and not stop spending. his words from a radio interview. he also wants to get the epa control or in bed with the goverment farming programs. that means if the epa is in charge cow farts will be taxed like in other states, dust will become a pollutant, so basically a guy will have to farm at night so and claim to not have any animals. its bad enough when already having the soil and water district watching over you with satalite imaging to make sure you arent changing any ditchs or water ways, making sure there is no manure or feed lot run off.
i can picture school spending to go through the roof.

minnesota is in the same positions as every other state. the infrastructore, sewer, water, bridges, damns are all way behind time to get replaced. at this point they are on a priority list and it wont be long until it is a national dissaster. it will be interesting to see if dayton puts people to work fixing these systems.

This is just another example of a policy that the Democrats love that will crush small and medium sized agricultural businesses while favoring huge corporate farms. Just like Obama's wonderful financial reform bill that Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan Chase wrote and lobbied for. Supposedly these Democrat policies are for the "little guy" that has been trained since birth to pull the lever for democrats. Too bad they keep their lying Democrat boots on the throats of the very constituents they're supposed to be protecting from the evil Republicans.
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nope, the right to work states are lazy and slow. they dont get paid much so that is how they work. see it all the time when coworkers go out of state.

the right wingers always are talking about how if we got rid of prevaling wage our repairs would be so much cheaper. ha! really, i worked for a company that alot of there business was redoing what the cheap companys did 5 years ago. not what the good companys did 40 years ago. for 10$ hr what kind of trained worker are you going to get to repair your clean water or sanitation? what kind of schooling has he been to?

st paul has there own water team, so if there is a break or water pipe line that needs repair or even just a wet tap for a new house or something, the contractor digs the hole, they come out and do the tap and then go home. it took 2 bread style trucks and a small team of guys to do a wet tap. when i did them i would do them myself, i didnt need 3 people running up and down the ditch bank to get me stuff.
Have the mookster write of a sales ad you can send to the city and see if they'll contract you for that kind of work.
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nope, the right to work states are lazy and slow. they dont get paid much so that is how they work. see it all the time when coworkers go out of state.

the right wingers always are talking about how if we got rid of prevaling wage our repairs would be so much cheaper. ha! really, i worked for a company that alot of there business was redoing what the cheap companys did 5 years ago. not what the good companys did 40 years ago. for 10$ hr what kind of trained worker are you going to get to repair your clean water or sanitation? what kind of schooling has he been to?

st paul has there own water team, so if there is a break or water pipe line that needs repair or even just a wet tap for a new house or something, the contractor digs the hole, they come out and do the tap and then go home. it took 2 bread style trucks and a small team of guys to do a wet tap. when i did them i would do them myself, i didnt need 3 people running up and down the ditch bank to get me stuff.
The MN Taxpayers' Assn (number crunching organization, not the Taxpayers' League, which is a highly partisan organization) did a study in 2003 which showed a 12-15% discount on vertical construction and about 8% on roads if the way we calculated prevailing wage was changed from modal (most common value) to mean (true average). It was a good study with lots of data, so I think it is probably pretty accurate. 8% may not sound like much, but when an average lane mile can cost $4M to reconstruct, it adds up.

Right to work won't happen any time soon in MN. Even if Emmer winds up on top, I doubt we'll see MN's strong union lobby let that one by.
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I really doubt you'd save 8% on roads just by recalculating prevailing wage. The cost of machinery, fuel, and maintenance is a much more than the operator gets. Plus, the cost of materials is a huge percentage of the total project. You could pay a bunch of Mexicans $6.00 an hour to build your roads, and you still would barely save 8%. Concrete roads are much more labor intensive, so you would get closer to that figure, but not much.
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Rubi - remind me what prevailing wage is for a paver operator with benefit wage in St Louis County? I bet even Douglas County is pretty high.
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Where I usually work, it averages about $2.50 higher than my base wage which is what I make when there is no Prevailing Wage. I am not including benefit wage because that is irrelevant to the majority of people that do the job. You could save a lot of money on Prevailing Wage if so much money weren't put into the benefit wage. I'd probably trade $3 an hour of benefits for $1 an hour of takehome wage. Most others would trade at 10 or 15 to one. Benefit wage is money controlled by the Unions though, so that will continue to increase.
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Unions as an organization is destroying many industries....
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I worked for a company that did building maintenence. we got a call from quest to change some light bulbs. i hauled a lift out to the place to change light bulbs. the workers had to move there lift trucks so i could change the bulbs. I asked them why they didnt just take 5 minute and change the bulbs themselves? "were union we dont have to" what they ment to say is there way to lazy and used union as an excuse. where is company pride? where is the if i make the company a dollar it will be here tommarrow to give me a job? there were some lightbulbs that costed sevral hundred dollars per bulb because of how far i had to drive with a truck and scissor lift.

i will say it again. how much skilled labor are you going to have building roads, bridges, sewer and water for 10$/hr? in the long run it will cost lots more than having workers getting paid fair wage for what they have to do. union or non union i dont care, but noone is going to do this kind of work for 10$ and put pride into it. the hole project they will be doing as little as possible and scimping on everything they can get buy with. then the inspector is going to see something and make a lot of rework going on.

i have some family that gives me a hard time for being union and we get paid to much. i laugh and tell them any day of the week they want to change jobs let me know. so far i havent had much takers. 1 of them is guite a bit over weight, he would have a heart attack before coffee break. ha!
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