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Old 11-08-2010
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I agree w/ you Mad in that workers like you would not matter union or not.... Self-pride/company-pride is such a rarity.

I will submit the following and you all can argue it at will....

1. a person who has Self pride will do the best job no matter the pay. They will just not stay at a level of pay they feel is inadequate.

2. a person who has no Self pride will do shitty work no matter the pay.

3. An owner with Company pride will pay employees what is required to attract and retain quality employees.

4. a company held hostage by a union will only focus on bottom line and job throughput. Quality eventually always becomes a casualty.

This is my experience and also my findings as I travel to different companies to fix their lab equipment.

The general Union mantra of a set pay for a set position even when worker is obviously a worthless, useless, dumb piece of shit is an albatross that sadly gives good workers a bad name and kills businesses.
Old 11-08-2010
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Originally Posted by Madcow View Post
i have some family that gives me a hard time for being union and we get paid to much. i laugh and tell them any day of the week they want to change jobs let me know. so far i havent had much takers. 1 of them is guite a bit over weight, he would have a heart attack before coffee break. ha!
Holy crap! You guys get coffee breaks?
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Old 11-08-2010
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Here we go with Unions are bad and union workers are lazy blah,blah,blah!
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then I'll be busy fingering myself on Saturday with my in-tact fingers, thank you.
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Old 11-08-2010
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Originally Posted by Rubi View Post
Holy crap! You guys get coffee breaks?
Don't be silly. Breaks of any sort are merely folklore.
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Old 11-08-2010
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Originally Posted by DirtylilWolfess View Post
Don't be silly. Breaks of any sort are merely folklore.
Wally world has been sued so many times we actually get in trouble if we don't take our breaks.

But yes Rock, most unions have become completely useless in this economy.
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Old 11-09-2010
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Originally Posted by Rubi View Post
Holy crap! You guys get coffee breaks?
listen to her. yeah we usually go till 9:30 or 10:00 am, then it is suppose to be our break. but if the foreman is around there is always an emergency that puts it off a couple hours. then i get pissy and tell them that maybe it will go better after we had a break and take a minute to think. I get pissy because we are running around in panic mode because the foreman is reacting and not responding to a situation. the other reason is i already donate 15 minutes a day and not going to make it a half hour.
then we take lunch at 1 pm and work till 7 pm.
i eat a lot of food during the work week and still manage to lose 20 lbs and several inchs. I would go back to road work like making subgrade any day of the week vs work with this foreman again. panic all day long, cant walk you have to run, and you never get anything done fast enough or right.

next year in duluth is going to be different. if every other company has 3-4 laborers doing pile work then so am i. that 1 labor thing and then the welder was a joke, and now i was on the union website and see they didnt even pay me to pile driving scale. that will change next year. if not there are always other companys doing something.

cwpotter makes some pretty fair points.
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