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I got something new and shiny sitting on the trailer. I'm heading down to TracksUSA to get a track and extension kit right now, so I might take some pictures when I get back. In stock form, this sled is woefully inadequate for boonditching and general offtrail shenanigans. I think I'm going to get another Intense 1.5" to put on there. I'll probably do a 136", but I'm not totally sure yet.

It sounds like the original Boonditcher Pro is going to be piloted by Mookie on The Group Ride. I don't know if he deserves the honor of riding an iconic sled like that, but maybe he'll nut up and do something sweet.

So yeah, the Edge 600 is for sale. Not showroom new, but not ready for the boneyard yet. Probably closer to the boneyard than the showroom, but she still rips! All reasonable and some unreasonable offers considered.
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INDY600 Correct? Inadequite, didn't expect that. Missy and I have discussed getting a Indy550 for Shane. Curious to see how it performs.
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My guess is that he will hardly ever ride the new Indy since he has such strong attachment issues with the boonditcher pro model.
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Indy600 with a 136 would be a pretty sweet boonditcher.
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Dang it, I double posted. Gerbil, find the gears!

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INDY600 Correct? Inadequite, didn't expect that. Missy and I have discussed getting a Indy550 for Shane. Curious to see how it performs.
Well, the main problem is the .91" stock track. That's just not enough for digging the really massive trenches. The "comfort" seat is not to my liking either. That thing muffintops out wider than the tank. I don't like getting all bowlegged when I stand. The skis will probably be fine, but I'd prefer some grippers on there. I might just pull the skis and seat off my Pro. I think Shane would love an Indy 550. That would be badass and the fanner only weighs about 10 pounds more than a Pro RMK.

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My guess is that he will hardly ever ride the new Indy since he has such strong attachment issues with the boonditcher pro model.
I will ride the new Indy, but I will probably bitch some about how I can't figure out how to make it rip. It felt nice and responsive in the back yard though, and I don't know if you saw the tracks, but it felt good going over the massive booter on the north side of my house. I can pretty much guarantee that I'll do a few sets on Boonditcher I for the Group Ride. Can't let Mookie have my honey all to himself.

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^^Only proven ones I hope.

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I'm accustomed to having two skid adjustments to weight or unweight the skis- rear scissor stop and limiter strap. These two things made very noticeable changes in the handling on my Edge. The Indy skid doesn't have multiple holes for the rear scissor stop, and the cam adjuster lets you choose between 3/16ths of an inch or 1/4". Big deal, I've already got it in the thin position for more rearword motion, and the skis are glued to the ground like the steer tires on a bobtail semi tractor. The limiter strap is not adjustable. What do I do? I'm going to be burying the front bumper on the far bank of creek crossings like IBreakstuff was fond of doing on the first group ride. This is not typical bitching due to my luddite tendencies. This is a real problem. Help.
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See my other post on the ride thread.

Buy some different limiter straps? Or take them out completely?
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Honestly, my first inclination is to drill new holes like you said in the other thread. Why don't they have several choices from the factory? The Xtra 10 and the Edge had them. I'm not taking the limiter strap off, but I will check to see if they have different lengths available. I don't remember if the strap is riveted together or if it's bolted. I do remember there are definitely no holes for adjustment.

I blame people that perpetuate the myth that you need a 163" skid to go anywhere but on the groomed trail. So now, Polaris designs a 121" sled to ONLY go on trails. Like Gerbil said today, it used to be that a 121 was a snowmobile, and if you wanted to ride, that was what you got. The 121 couldn't be a one-trick-pony because people were going to be ripping all over the landscape with that sled. Nowadays if there's a snowdrift across the corduroy on the trail, people stop their sleds before the drift, call the dealer, and have them deliver a mountain sled so they can get over the unpacked snow.

How hard is it to program a machine to drill a couple more holes in a suspension rail? An adjustable limiter strap probably costs the same as a stationary one. WTF? I've been really pissed off about snowmobiles the last two days. I was frustrated with the extension project yesterday, and then I was very unhappy with the new sled's deep snow performance. Then Boonditcher I just pushed me over the edge today. I put the stock pipe back on, and it fired right off in the garage and ran really smooth. I put it outside on the stand, warmed it up, then went in the house for awhile. Took awhile to work up the nerve to go out in a -50F blizzard, but I bundled up and headed out. I pulled on that piece of shit FIVE THOUSAND TIMES and it would start every once and awhile, but it was drowning. Only an hour before, it had been running perfectly!! Now I had it going, but it wasn't on the stand, and I had to keep giving it throttle so it wouldn't die. I decided I'd just take off and clean it out on the run, but I smashed into a stack of totes full of mulch in the backyard and got stuck. Gerbil showed up and saw me buried up against a 2 1/2 foot wall of snow with enough smoke coming out of the trench to lay down cover for the D-Day invasion. I was wildly pumping the throttle to keep it running because I didn't have enough strength to pull it 5000 more times. It wouldn't run below clutch engagement, so I was trenched so deep that I should have called the utility locators. Finally, Gerbil came to the rescue, gave a tug on the ski; and I rode over to the garage where it died. I tried to run it a few more times on the stand, but it sounded terrible and ran worse than the time it only had 38 PSI in one cylinder. I gave up and went in the garage where I pouted for two hours while Gerbil tore down his sled. Finally, I just bit the bullet and fixed it so Mookie could save $450 in rental fees. It ran fine after a bit of work, so I should have been happy... right?? No, the test and tune ride made me MORE pissed off because my 14 year old piece of shit Arctic Cat handles deep snow WAY better than my brand new sled. I'm ready to pull a Fagsex, sell the sleds, and move to Texas.
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I think the lack of adjustment is 2 fold.

1. People have complained about having complex adjustability on the suspension. Polaris' answer must be to remove what they don't think people need or understand.
2. Why would someone buy a trail sled to not ride on the trail well? Polaris says "Buy more than one sled - one for trail one for off" and doesn't offer the adjustment.

I say drill the fuckin holes and make your own limiter straps.
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I bought the sled because it was almost $3000 cheaper than the available "crossover" sled, and I had zero problems making my model year 2000 "trail" sled handle offtrail riding just fine.

Bryan: Darrel's shop- Thursday PM- Help me CHOP a brand new sled! We'll make it into this decades version of The Turd.
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Another question to consider is track attack angle.
Too steep and it can not get on top of the snow.

As far as your limiter straps, just make yourself some new ones with multiple holes so you can adjust it.
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Wow, That sucks Rubi. You have any pics?
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Crank the preload on the front ski shocks?
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I bought the sled because it was almost $3000 cheaper than the available "crossover" sled, and I had zero problems making my model year 2000 "trail" sled handle offtrail riding just fine.

Bryan: Darrel's shop- Thursday PM- Help me CHOP a brand new sled! We'll make it into this decades version of The Turd.
I'm in. I think I have some limiter straps from my ProX skid that may work. Measure yours.

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Crank the preload on the front ski shocks?
Too much ski pressure. No bueno.
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Shall I bring $2000 dolla to the group ride and take that piece of shit arctic cat out of your hair Rubi?
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Shall I bring $2000 dolla to the group ride and take that piece of shit arctic cat out of your hair Rubi?
I was just at Rubi's and he is still pretty pissed so he might just take that if you throw in a carton of Camels to sweeten the deal a little.
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I'm in. I think I have some limiter straps from my ProX skid that may work. Measure yours.
I've inspected the limiter strap, and it looks like I can lengthen it by drilling some new holes. The slack end is tripled up where the front bolt is, but the rear bolt only goes through two layers of belting. I'll just add one more bolt to hold the loose end together.

Any ideas how much I should lengthen it? I don't have my Edge to look at anymore. It seems like the threaded adjuster on there had maybe an 1 1/2" of travel. I had it as loose as possible. Am I thinking correctly when I figure that moving the hole 1" will make the strap 1/2" longer because it is looped around the shaft?
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1" will equal 1/2" longer.

Do you want me to bring mine to be safe? Not sure 1/2" is going to make as much of a difference as you want.
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I don't want this sled as extreme as the Edge. I want the skis on the ground sometimes. I just want the front to come up a little when I need it to come up. Today I was hitting some 5 foot finger drifts... I climbed up the backside of the drift, skis skyward, by the time I landed, my skis hit the ground well before the track like I'd locked the brake in the air, only I hadn't. You know two wheel drive tractors have that big steel box in front that you fill with rocks? That's what this sled feels like it has on the front bumper.

I was thinking of trying about 1 1/2" hole move tomorrow morning. If that heads me in the right direction, I'll still have time to add another if I need more.

At work, the mechanic has a hole punch thing that you hit with a hammer to cut perfect holes in rubber belting. What is that tool called, and is it readily available at the store?

Do you think the limiter strap, or the stop blocks are more important to achieve what I'm after. An RMK has no coupling in back, but it still has a limiter strap, so I'm thinking I don't want to go overboard lengthening the strap. I may have to do both things in moderation instead of going overboard with one. Can anybody measure the distance between the two stop block holes on a skid that has two? My Edge went down the road already, so I can't. To be really accurate, I need to know how much lower, and how much further back it is.
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That's a leather punch. Easier to find at a craft store.
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